ANSI Accredited Standards Committee O5
Annual Meeting Minutes
March 28-29, 1996
University Park Holiday Inn
Fort Collins, Colorado

Chairman Moody called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.m.

Chairman Moody welcomed the O5 members to Fort Collins for the 1996 O5 Annual Meeting.

The Chairman asked the attendees to introduce themselves and to sign in on the O5 membership roster that was being circulated. The attendance is attached (Attachment I.).

Mr. John N. Kressbach, who recently retired from Bellcore, advised that he will be representing Mr. Jon Shaw of Bellcore.

II. Approval of Minutes of the 1995 ASC O5 Annual Meeting May 1-2, 1995

The minutes were approved as distributed.

III. Approval of Agenda

The Agenda for this meeting was approved as distributed.

IV. Secretary's Report

The Secretary reported on the status of the latest O5 Committee letter ballot:

• O5 LB95-01 on the Revision of ANSI O5.2-1983 (R1989), Wood Products Structural Glued Laminated Timber for Utility Structures, closed on May 29, 1995. The results of the ballot were sent to the O5 and O5.2 Subcommittee Chairmen. The resolution of comments is in order during the O5.2 Subcommittee Meeting to be held during this Annual Meeting.

He reviewed the status of ANSI O5.1 and O5.3:

• ANSI O5.1-1992 is due for reaffirmation or revision in 1997 per the 5-year rule. A draft metric O5.1 Standard was mailed to the members for review and discussion at this Annual Meeting.
• ANSI O5.3 - 1995, the revision of ANSI O5.3-1989 and ANSI O5.3a-1991 was approved by ANSI on August 24, 1995 and published.

The Secretary reviewed the status of ATIS Cost Recovery Program and reported that the program initiated in 1995 to recover the cost to produce and distribute documents after a meeting, has progressed to the ATIS Board of Director's approval of a program to recover the direct costs incurred in the sponsorship of a Committee such as ASC O5. The Secretary advised that a fee that would yield $5,000 - $7,000 would cover ATIS costs to continue the sponsorship of ASC O5.

Mr. Moody, O5 Chairman, reported that this financial matter was discussed with the O5 leadership of Subcommittee Chairs, the night before the start of this Annual Meeting. He stated that he would appoint a task force to review and develop a proposal to fund the cost of supporting O5.

General discussion ensued and it was mentioned that there may be a need to seek a new Secretariat if the funds cannot be raised. (See item VIII of minutes for subsequent actions.)

V. Report on Related Standards Activity

AITC A190.1 is in revision by AITC.

VI. Agenda Items for Subcommittee Meetings

A. Classification -

• Chaired by Mr. Leinfelder will be discussing the draft proposed metrication of ANSI O5.1.

B. Fiber Stress -

• Chaired by Mr. Kluge will be meeting with the Classification Subcommittee and will be discussing Western Cedar fiber stresses, trial-use of propose O5.4 on NDE of poles, load duration for CCA treated poles, and the revision of Table 5.

C. Crossarms -

• Chaired by Mr. Reisdorff, in the absence of Mr. Lash, will be discussing data development for Southern Pine Crossarms.

D. Glulam -

• Chaired by Mr. Smith will be working on the resolution of comments received from the letter ballot on the revision of ANSI O5.2.

E. Material Requirements -

• Mr. Evans has resigned as Chairman. Working on documentation of typical characteristic; Chairman Moody will seek and appoint a new Chair.

F. Structural Composite Lumber -

• Mr. Craig, the Chairman, was not able to attend this Annual Meeting. A draft standard is in development.

G. Foreign Species Task Group -

• Chaired by Mr. Lonning will be drafting a set of procedures on consideration of foreign species.

H. Deep Incising Task Group -

• Mr. Newbill reported that his task group had not met but that he will develop a proposal, work with his task group and have something for the main committee at next years meeting.

Chairman Moody thanked Dr. Bodig and his staff person Lisa Nelson, for making all the arrangements for the 1996 O5 Annual Meeting in Fort Collins.

Subcommittee meeting room assignments and time allocations were made by Chairman Moody in Agreement with the Chairs for their respective subcommittee meetings.

This portion of the O5 Committee Meeting was adjourned at 10:00 a.m. for the subcommittee meetings, to be reconvened upon completion of the subcommittee meetings.

The O5 Committee meeting was reconvened at 3:10 p.m for the subcommittee reports.

VII. Subcommittee Reports

A. Fiber Stress Subcommittee - Mr. Kluge reported.

The report of this meeting is attached as Attachment II.

Mr. Kluge reported that new data is available from the academic and research groups on the strength values of common species of poles, which need to be incorporated into Table 1.

Mr. Kluge moved on behalf of the Fiber Stress Subcommittee that the O5 Committee accept messrs. Bodig's and Bhuyan's proposal in principal, and have Chairman Moody and Mr. Kluge address a letter to messrs. Bodig and Bhuyan on this action. The motion was approved unanimously.

Mr. Kluge reported on the subject of load duration/strength, and Mr. Goodson's letter to him regarding CCA treated poles. He requests the O5 Committee address this issue in ANSI O5.1. No action was proposed by the subcommittee at this time.

Mr. Kluge reviewed a study on the NDE of new poles which was presented by Mr. Bhuyan at the subcommittee meeting, and shared Dr. Bodig's presentation made at the second Southern Pole Conference held at Mississippi State University.

The question arose on the percentage of poles upgraded based on the NDE grading. Mr. Bhuyan said he would provide this data. (See Attachment II)

B. Classification Subcommittee - Mr. Leinfelder reported.

Mr. Leinfelder reviewed the ANSI Executive Standards Council's directive on the ANSI Metric Policy. He reviewed past efforts to develop a metric standard.

Mr. Leinfelder reported that the draft metric standard was distributed by the Secretariat was discussed and rejected. He advised that the subcommittee approved a motion to prepare a soft conversion of ANSI O5.1, adding the SI Unit in parentheses after the English Unit.

Mr. Leinfelder moved on behalf of the subcommittee to draft a soft conversion of ANSI O5.1 with the SI Units in parentheses.

The motion was amended to provide separate tables in English Units and SI Units. The Amendment was approved unanimously.

The amended motion was approved with two (2) negative votes and one abstention.

C. Crossarms Subcommittee - Mr. Reisdorff reported.

Mr. Reisdorff reported that seven members were present. He advised that there were minor editorial corrections, and that the subcommittee will accumulate data on Southern Pine.

D. Glulam Subcommittee - Mr. Smith reported.

Mr. Smith reported on the resolution of the comments submitted on the O5 letter ballot of the revision of ANSI O5.2. He advised that the negative votes with comments from Brooks Manufacturing and AITC have been resolved, and the changes made in the revision of ANSI O5.2 will be sent to the O5 members for their review and approval.

A motion was made and seconded to accept the resolution of the negative votes as reported.

The motion was approved with one (1) abstention.

E. Material Requirements Subcommittee

Chairman Moody reported that the subcommittee did not meet. He advised that Mr. Colin McCown of Thomasson Lumber Company has volunteered to chair this subcommittee. He thanked Mr. McCown for taking this Chairmanship.

F. Structural Composite Lumber

This subcommittee did not meet.

G. Task Group on Foreign Species - Mr. Lonning reported.

Mr. Lonning reported that they considered the items to include in a set of procedures for the review and approval of proposed foreign species. He said that he will review the ASTM requirements, information on untreated and treated material, supply certification, third party certification and more.

Mr. Lonning proposes to formalize and send this information to the task group members for comments and this project be concluded by late summer of this year. The proposed procedures will be submitted to the O5 Committee in the Spring of 1997 for its review and approval.

It was suggested that this set of procedures can be an Annex to the revision of ANSI O5.1.

The meeting was adjourned at 4:00 p.m. for the meeting of the Task Force on Funding ASC O5, to reconvene at 8:30 a.m. the next day, March 29, 1996.

The O5 Committee meeting reconvened at 8:30 a.m. on March 29, 1996.

VIII. Report of the Task Force on Funding ASC O5

Chairman Moody reported on the meeting of the task force on funding of the O5 Committee. The task force consisted of Chairman Moody, messrs. Comerford, Kluge, Kressbach, Stoddard, Sullivan and Lai.

Mr. Moody reported that the task force discussed the subject in detail and had agreement to propose the following action to the O5 members:

• Chairman Moody can write a letter to the Secretariat for reconsideration of the subject matter.

• Task Force review the budget and have the O5 members who benefit the most from the output of ASC O5 provide the funding of the O5 Committee work. The following were the groups that the task force suggested be contacted to fund the O5 Committee activity; EEI, APPA, NRECA for the power (utility) industry, the Western and Southern producers, and ATIS for the telephone industry.

• IEEE Representative Mr. Kluge, to contact the IEEE Standards Department to investigate the possibility of sponsorship of ASC O5, if the funding plan is not successful.

The time table for the completion of this effort is September 1, 1996.

Discussion ensued.

A motion was made, seconded and unanimously approved to proceed with this course of action.

IX. O5 Committee Priority Items

Chairman Moody asked for priority items from the members.

The recommendation was made to liaison with ASC C2, the National Electrical Safety Code. It was suggested that the Secretariat, IEEE, be contacted with regard to a voting membership for ASC O5.

The motion was made, seconded and unanimously approved to contact the IEEE for Voting Membership on ASC C2.

Messrs. Bingel and Peters, IEEE Representatives to ASC O5 were suggested for the O5 Committee Representative and Alternate Representative to ASC C2.

The suggestion was made that action items for the Annual Meeting be provided to the members as early as possible and at least 30 days in advance of the meeting.

X. Next Meeting

The location for the 1997 Annual Meeting was discussed.

The motion was made, seconded and approved unanimously to have the 1997 meeting at the USDA / FPL in Madison, WI, in conjunction with the ASTM meeting.

Chairman Moody thanked EDM, Inc. and Dr. Bodig supported by Lisa Nelson of his staff for their help in making the arrangements in Fort Collins for the 1996 O5 Annual Meeting. He thanked ATIS for its continued support of the O5 Annual Meetings.

XI. Presentation by Mr. Dan Tingley on Reinforced Wood Structural Member

Mr. Dan Tingley, the Executive Director of the Wood Science & Technology Institute , made his presentation with the aid of viewgraphs and slides. The presentation was well received.

XII. Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 a.m.

Respectfully Submitted,

Alvin Lai
O5 Recording Secretary

Attachments

I. Attendance
II. Fiber Stress Subcommittee Report
III. O5 Committee Roster